Following a very serious accident and time spent in hospital, Karl Perkins picked up a guitar for the first time since the seventies. In the punk era he had played for bands who were on the brink of stardom but turned his back on the rock & roll lifestyle in favour of other things. Encouraged by his brother Karl took to his new 'therapy' and made contact with other local musicians in a bid to form a live band. The first demo was recorded at Beaumont St. Studios and was largely used to see if Karl could still do it. Neil auditioned for Moving Rivers in late '97 & began to write lyrics for some of the work already completed by the others. Unfortunately, the drummer for the band decided to leave to further develop his drum teaching and workshops. From this point on the band suffered setback after setback in relation to finding musicians who would be committed to the project. So much so that their CD album 'Down to hope' features no less than four different drummers.